Christians Overcoming and Serving

John Havener November 13th, 2009

through faith in Jesus Christ!!!

Guest Author October 6th, 2009

That gave me the Spirit of the Lord,
and I heard these words spoken aloud to me …
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And this is it what He told me: “Like America has defended, loved and
promoted the state of Israel and has supported the Jews – just like that
will that nation hate, condemn and curse that state and the Jews, worse
than it has been since in history.

Lo and behold this is what the Lord says: “My people and My children
must be hated by all peoples. All of them must turn their faces from them.
I will make them do that because I am a jealous God and I am zealous
about my people and want to fight for My Israel and My children and want
to be their Lord and God.

Don’t be amazed about the worldwide hatred and dislike against My Israel,
against the Jews and the Christians alike. This is condoned and allowed by
Me, says the Lord. All atheists will huddle against the faithful and will
hatch a plot against them. They will do whatever they can, to force My
children to their knees. But all these efforts will be futile, they will only
achieve that the chaff will separate from the corn, the truthful from the
false and will achieve My works of cleansing and healing.

My true people and children will not bend their knees on such pressure,
and that will infuriate the peoples of the world even more. They will behave
like savages inebriated, not shying away from doing the most abominable.
Unholiness galore will reign amongst them. Continue Reading »

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John Havener September 20th, 2009

I feel compelled at this time to speak to my fellow Christians  about the present political and social situation because I believe we are at a critical juncture or crossroad and that if we take the wrong path at this time it would be counterproductive at best, and lead to a horrific persecution at worst. Over the past months millions of Americans have become deeply concerned about the direction of our country and the changes that are being introduced by the Democrat-control Congress. Many seriously fear loss of freedoms, feel that their heritage is being trashed, and that an imposition of a Marxist style tyranny might be forthcoming. Many absolutely refuse to stand idly by while our country and culture goes down this perceived path. Conservative TV, talk radio, “Tea Parties,” town hall meetings and other phenomenon are keeping things hot and in the forefront of people’s minds. I frankly am in deep sympathy with many of the objectives of these groups and personalities… And yet, I’m very concerned. Again, we may be at a very important fork the road.

Years ago, I was senior pastor of a church in Pensacola, Florida. The Pro-life movement was heating up and I wanted to rally our people to help save the unborn. Christians from many churches and para-church ministries were protesting at our local abortion clinics. At one point there may have been 5000 people in the streets representing a wide spectrum of the body of Christ in our area. Hopefully, some that were contemplating abortion turned aside to other, better choices. As time went on, a small minority of radical pro-lifers began to shout horrible and hateful things not only to the abortionists, but also to those entering the clinic seeking an abortion. Due to these people, who were a very small minority, the atmosphere got very rough and poisonous. As a pastoral leader, I could no longer encourage my people to be a part of this effort which started so nobly. I pulled our people off the protest lines and away from the clinics. I was criticized for doing this, but not too long afterward a gunman murdered an abortion Doctor. Another abortionist would be gunned down in the not-too-distant future. These crimes greatly shocked our community, negatively affected the pro-life movement in the nation, and almost killed the Prolife effort in our area. I came to the conclusion during this era that has stuck with me and I believe will serve Christians well in the future: the work of Christ must be done in the spirit (attitude) of Christ. Scripture says “the wrath of a man does not work the will of God.” I understand that there is such a thing as righteous indignation and bold confrontation of wickedness and evil, but great care has to be exercised by Christians in general and pastoral leaders in particular to discern what spirit is activating an individual, group, or movement. The work of Christ must be done in the spirit of Christ! I was grieved at the recent Washington Tea Party to see some of the signs that were so slanderous, hateful, and flat-out ugly regarding our president. I do not support most of his policies, and I pray fervently for his true conversion, but I can say as a veteran minister of our Lord that some of the signs were not of Christ! If an unbeliever were carrying that sign it would be one thing, no believer should manifest hatred and contempt toward another human being.

Jesus once said, “Beware of the leaven of Herod.” Herod, of course, was the political leader of Galilee where Jesus did most of his Ministry. There was a group called the Herodians who felt like the best course of action for the Jewish people in the area was to accommodate and even compromise with Herod and his policies. Jesus warned that this type of political association (without the proper spiritual foundation) would be sinful and destructive. Every Christian needs to realize that there are definite limits to political involvement and to what politics can accomplish. Without an adequate spiritual foundation, it can be vanity and a chasing after the wind. John Adams, the second president of our country, said that our Constitution was totally inadequate for the government of irreligious people. I believe in our Constitution! But it cannot do the job alone with a population that is living in defiance to the God of the Bible. What is needed, and what we must have if we are to safeguard our freedoms and our heritage, is a genuine spiritual revolution. I am not talking about taking up arms or an Islamic style take-over the government like happened in Iran. I am talking is something beyond renewal, beyond revival as we’ve known it; a spiritual revolution that affects the masses and eventually changes institutions through true conversion to Jesus Christ and commitment to His way of life, individually and corporately.

Socially and culturally, England was a mess at the turn of the 19th century. Urbanization, cheap gin, many social problems, an ineffective Christianity, and other things had brought England into a terrible state. Across the channel, the French Revolution had turned into a massive bloodbath and ideological craziness. Would England go the same way? It might have, but God sent a spiritual revolution through the work of the Spirit in the Ministry of the Wesleys and George Whitfield. Thousands of other unknown Christians would pray and work to bring about a revolution of the most Glorious kind. No bloodshed. Wonderful social changes. Millions eventually would be truly converted to Christ and change the fabric of English society and culture. What an example for us to ardently pray for and to work for as God begins to move. We’re living in a very dynamic time of American history, with many strong crosscurrents, and many compelling voices beckoning us to move our country into a better place. Which path will you, will we take? Without a spiritual revolution, it will not work.

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John Havener July 13th, 2009

If you check on this site from time to time you might have wondered what happened to me, even if I was still around! What have I been doing? Well, quite a few things actually as the spring was busy with visitors, etc. But of possible  relevance to you…I have been preparing. I am not an investment expert or economist and I have no “inside track” of revelation from the Lord Jesus about the future…but there are strong currents of economic activity…more than one…that give me the sense that we could wake up tomorrow and find the US dollar drastically devalued, or worthless, or switched to a new international world currency. I am looking way beyond the conventional wisdom and buzz about the “recession.” Here are a few things that are flowing together: the nation is drastically in debt and going at lightening speed into the deepest indebtedness of any nation in history; this debt is held by foreign nations mostly who are very nervous about the value of the USD; There is a strong move to dump the dollar as the international trading currency and establish some kind of  super world currency. Whatever part of the massive debt the US treasury cannot borrow, the Federal Reserve must print (The “Fed” is totally unaccountable to anyone)…I could go on, but you have heard this stuff before and probably feel there is nothing you can do about it but pray (please pray!)  At some point in time  a world currency or mark has to happen and will. Consider the world of God referring to the false prophet, Antichrist’s servant: “And he requires everyone–small and great, rich and poor, free and slave–to be given a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark: the beast’s name or the number of his name.
(Rev 13:16-17) Are we moving rapidly in this direction? Perhaps so, but even if not, I have a conviction that our country is already under the redemptive, disciplinary judgment of God. So I am preparing with my limited personal assets (and at the natural level my resources are limited!) What I have tried to do over the past few months is to convert dollars, which I believe may soon be near worthless, and invest them into tangible things that might help us and others in a super crunch. By investing I do not mean buying gold and silver which are selling at very high levels! I mean buying that grain mill, or water purifier or something else you might really need in a collapse. Can you get SOME of your stuff out of debt, so that you have something that won’t be taken away from you? For example, if you have two vehicles, can you pay off one? We have a new truck and paying it off seems to be out of sight…but we have some older wheels that are debt free.

Years ago a book was written titled, “The Day the Dollar Dies.” If you live to see that day, will you have prepared any debt free resources that you can use to help you overcome the situation and serve others?

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John Havener July 10th, 2009

PLEASE READ the previous article before looking at this one! I am now going to offer a few specific suggestions for those who may want to purchase self defense fire arms: Mossberg 500 self defense shotgun with 12 gauge buckshot…this has huge stopping power and might even hold off a small group/ gang. Ammo plentiful. I have two possibilities to consider for pistols: .357 snub nose revolver. Excellent stopping power, ammo availability ok and .38 rounds can be shot in it for practice. The .38 has less concussion and is cheaper, but has considerably less stopping power. The second pistol choice is the KelTec P3AT .380. This tiny pistol has been described as “utterly reliable” and is so small it can be carried in a pocket, purse or other spots with ease. You can add a  lazier sight for an extra $200.00…this allows quicker target acquisition in emergency situations. It has moderate recoil (jump) and stopping power. .380 ammo harder to get than .357 or .38 and is in short supply now. Both pistols hold 6 bullets. I recommend special hollow point, pre-fragmented bullets for actual self defense situations, but these are far too expensive for target practice. Oh well, these are my choices. Continue Reading »

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